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Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Susanna » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:29 pm

I've been having NO major problems with the performance of PT3 so far, but now it seems like whenever I start it I get a lot of postgre sessions in my taskmanager and my computer just gets slower and slower. I've done the house keeping with my active database..What else can I do to stop it from falling over?

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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:51 pm

There will always be multiple postgres processes - that's how postgres works, and won't cause any problems.

You may find these useful too:
Performance Tuning: Hard Drives
Performance Tuning PostgreSQL

If your HUD is still lagging, you could experiment with the 'performance level' settings on the HUD Options tab.
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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Susanna » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:50 am

I have 3 full tilt windows open and I have 16 postgres instances running. Together with the Pokertracker.exes (including the admin) your application is taking up over 150,000K of my memory in task manager. That is almost 3 times as many resources as ANY of the applications on my machine. Are you anticipating your tool taking this much resource?

If this doesn't worry your from a performance matter, then what change in release 3 to cause my computer to grid to a halt whenever I run PT3?

EDIT: When I checked those numbers I wasn't actually importing anything...I've just turned it on and it's gone over 210,000K in memory it uses now.
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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Thomas42 » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:32 pm

I have the same problems with build 3 as well. I can't say for sure it started with beta 18 or build 3 as I didn't use beta 18 for more than a few sessions.

My current PC is not a performance monster, quite the opposite, but with build 3 I can hardly run anything else that PT3, PS and Thunderbird. Before it was no problems having torrents running, as well as browser, pidgin and other stuff. The only differene as I can see it is build 3 (or maybe beta 18).

Last night when I had a break I took a look at the task manager and there where about 10 psql processes running, three of then where 30-50Mb big and their size did not change.

It seems to me that you have introduced something that doesn't play well with psql.

Also, starting up PT3, even as the first app on a freshly rebooted PC, takes much longer. So does working with it. Housekeeping doesn't seem to be affected for me, takes about 20 mins with all four options ticked.
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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby APerfect10 » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:54 pm

Susanna wrote:I have 3 full tilt windows open and I have 16 postgres instances running. Together with the Pokertracker.exes (including the admin) your application is taking up over 150,000K of my memory in task manager. That is almost 3 times as many resources as ANY of the applications on my machine. Are you anticipating your tool taking this much resource?

If this doesn't worry your from a performance matter, then what change in release 3 to cause my computer to grid to a halt whenever I run PT3?

EDIT: When I checked those numbers I wasn't actually importing anything...I've just turned it on and it's gone over 210,000K in memory it uses now.


Applications such as PokerTracker process a lot of information and require a database server backend therefore there will always be the database processes which consume resources. Your choices are use less resources and have slower performance or use more resources and have better performance. If the memory is available then you should use it.

I presume when you started PT3 that it loaded up a tab and retrieved stats from the database therefore the database is storing results in memory for faster subsequent retrieves that are similar.

What are your computers specs? CPU? Memory? hard drive speed? Are you frequently running Housekeeping on your database? Have you build your cache and keep it updated?

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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Susanna » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:06 pm

I'm running a VMWare image with 852MB RAM available. My laptop is a HP with Intel dual core 2.20 Ghz, 2.99 RAM. I WMware images for work and to demo my company's software (some of it enterprise server software) and it works without a problem normally.

I've been trying this out some more and it's behaving itself more now, but it's still using up huge amounts of resources. I'm not sure what the min spec for this application is, but I guess it should be something fairly high.

I do run housekeepeing etc on my database. I'm wondering if I was importing Stars and Tilt the other day when it stopped working.

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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby APerfect10 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:03 pm

Databases are extremely hard disk intensive as there is more data than can fit in memory therefore it is imperative that a fairly fast hard drive is being used when heavily using databases such as PT3 does. Most laptops come with only a 5200RPM drive which is very slow and I highly recommend not using. At minimum, you should have at least a 7200RPM hard drive and preferably 1GB of RAM free.

Just because other software runs fine on your computer's specs does not mean that PT3 will. Most software, like PT3, is small and can easily fit into memory. The difference is that PT3 uses large databases which most other programs do not have and that is where 99% of performance bottlenecks.

I do run housekeepeing etc on my database. I'm wondering if I was importing Stars and Tilt the other day when it stopped working.


It is not possible to run housekeeping while importing...if that is what you mean?

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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Sharpy08 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:25 pm

I am having a similar issue. I just noticed since Release 3 (I have been using PT since beta 14 or 15) that my system would get a small lag from time to time. An example is that now I can't even get the mouse across the screen b4 it pauses for a second.

It is definitely postgres that is doing this. Task manager verified this. I am running Vista, 2.2 dual core, 3G ram (1.7 free), 7200 RPM drive. It almost seems to be getting worse and worse with each day. Either that or i am just noticing it more. Either way it is very very annoying. Now I just bought this computer about 7 months ago and feel that it should be more then capable of running this. In the task manager, it is showing that it spikes the hard drive about every 5 seconds and I guess basically bottle necks. This is without PT running also.

One question I have is why does postgres run all the time even thou PT is not running? Not that it really matters, because if it procedded to do this only when PT was running it would still be an issue.

I did not encounter any of these issues AT ALL, prior to installing release 3.

Should I reinstall postgres?

My machine is maxed with the 3 gig, and the HD is a 7200rpm with a crap load of free space.

Any thoughts folks?

TY Doug

P.S. I will go thru the HD and database performance stuff to see if I can remedy the problem. But since I didn't have the problem before R3 I don;t really understand why I would have a problem now.
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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby nelliesman93 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:28 pm

I have an old Toshiba Satellite that I have labeled as my "Poker Laptop" and it runs good with PT3 running and 4 tabling on PS.

Processor: 1GHZ Celeron Coppermine (Plan on installing a 1.0 GHZ Pentium III for better performance.)
RAM: 512MB (looking for 1GB 100MHZ to test) Documentation says it only takes 512MB but I have found some other info that says 1GB will work.)

Before I run PT3 and my poker client I stop all items that are running in the background that I do not need which includes my firewall and Norton antivirus. These are turned back on when accessing the web.

I have also optimized the laptop using the MajorGeeks site which I highly recommend. You can push a little bit more performance out of your laptop or PC. http://forums.majorgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48

Search for laptop or whatever operating system you are using tweaks on your favorite search engine.

So basically I just wanted to let everyone know that PT3 will run with minimal issues on an older system. You might just need to optimize or find yourself a 'poker only laptop'. :) Good luck!!!
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Re: Version 3, release 3 running like a dog...

Postby Sharpy08 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:22 pm

nelliesman93 wrote:I have also optimized the laptop using the MajorGeeks site which I highly recommend. You can push a little bit more performance out of your laptop or PC.


This I will check out. I failed to mention I am on a lappy also. And I will try shutting down some background stuff and troubleshoot it some more.

Just for clarity, I am in no way complaining :D I love this software, and really have had no major issues.

Hopefully this is a problem on my end and not PT related. I will dig further, and see what I can find.
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