WHO IS FACING FLOAT BET? ONLY THE PFA OR OTHER IN THE POT?

[marvin]

A is PFA. here we are on flop with 5 players :lol:
flop: A:check - B: check - C: check - D:bet -E call // A raise - B 3bet - C:call - D: call - E: call - A: 4BET and everybody call.

Player A dont cbet, then B,C,D have float bet opportunity (NO E, why D has made a float bet). CORRECT?
E has raise opportunity. but im asking: HE IS FACING A SIMPLE BET OR A IS FACING A FLOAT BET? IN other words, is only the PFA that can be facing a float bet? or everyone who is active and is not facing a raise? IN THIS CASE, PLAYER A is facing float bet (IM sure about this lol)
but....... Player E is facing FLOATBET??
continuing: B is facing a raise and has 3bet opportunity and flg_f_3bet TRUE
C has flg_f_3bet FALSE and flg_f_4bet_opp TRUE

A is the aggressor also on flop, but he has not the cbet opportunity on the turn why he has not made cbet on flop (I SAY THIS FOR HELPING OTHER READERS, NO NEED CONFIRMATION ABOUT THIS SENTENCE).

let me know... TY.

[WhiteRider]

Yes, you're correct, although bear in mind that strictly speaking you can't "float" the flop because the PFA hasn't made a C-Bet on the previous street. This is just a technicality, though; if you define the "Float Flop" stat (which doesn't exist as a built-in stat) to be betting the flop after the PFA has failed to make a flop CBet then all your assumptions/statements are correct.

[marvin]

sorry, didnt thought we hadnt float definition built in, so assuming we are speaking about turn.
A is PFA. A made cbet on flop and all players call.
turn: A:check - B: check - C: check - D:bet -E call // A raise - B 3bet - C:call - D: call - E: call - A: 4BET and everybody call.
question 1) D MAKES A FLOAT BET, now... who is facing float bet?
(im in doubt about E) (I DONT UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR PREVIUOS POST, ABOUT PLAYER E, IF HE IS FACING A FLOAT BET ,may be my english... :mrgreen: )
1a) also if E is facing the bet, he is not the PFA so he is not facing Float Bet, the only player that facing float bet is A.
1b) each player that can raise (not 3-bet or 4bet) a float bet are facing a float bet.
wich prosposition is true?
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other situation:
A is PFA, A made Cbet on flop in this way FLOP: A: bet - B: call - C: call - D:raise -A,B: call.
2a) A has now the opportunity of cbetting why he is PFA, he has c-betted on flop, so he can c-bet on turn, also if he has faced a raise on flop.
2b) when a c-bet is raised, not is possible make c-bet on future street.
WICH PROPOSITON IS TRUE?
...assuming this sequence of TURN: A:check - B: bet - C,D,A: call.
2c) the bet made by B is not a float bet why check by A is not a missed CBET (according proposition 2b, why cbet is not executable, based the action on flop, cause the raise of player D), then float bet on this street cant be definited.
this proposition is true?

SORRY FOR THEESE FORMULATIONS, BUT IN THIS WAY IS MORE SIMPLE FOR ME UNDERSTAND ....

[WhiteRider]

1. As far as I know (and a quick test agrees) only the c-bettor can face a float bet - everyone else just faces a bet.
E does not face a float, A does.
1a is true.

2. 2b is correct.

2c is also correct - if there cannot be a CBet then there cannot be a Float bet either.

[marvin]

2b) when a c-bet is raised, not is possible make c-bet on future street.
ALSO IF THE CBETTOR THAT FACE A RAISE, 3BETS AND IS CALLED BY THE ORIGINAL RAISER (BEING ON THE TURN THE FLOP AGGRESSOR)
I MEAN: A is PFA, on flop, A bet, button raise, A 3bet, button call. on turn, A lead out betting again.

The bet of A on turn is cbet?

[kraada]

No, once the cbet is raised, the momentum of the hand has changed and as such no further bets can be cbets.