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High Cards on River

Postby carl91 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:11 pm

Hey there,

I'm studying population's value to bluff frequencies on the river. One of the filter's I'm using is the 'High Cards on River' filter as seen below:

https://imgur.com/a/vMnqHqD

For example, say I'm looking at triple barrel spots that have gone to showdown. Let's say there are 1000 total instances of this. Once I apply the above filter, I now get 100 results.

However, if the board is paired on any street, the database classifies our opponent as technically having a 1 pair hand, even though they still have a "high cards on river" bluff, and hence these results are excluded.

I know I could just run a board texture filter to filter out board pairs, but I don't want to do that. Is there another way I can setup the filters to get closer to the most accurate "pure bluff" filters? Hope this makes sense.
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby Flag_Hippo » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:59 am

Add an additional hand strength filter and join them with 'OR' so that you end up with:

((Overcards - River Any Overcards) OR (Made One Pair On River Using No Hole Cards Kicker Any Kicker))

Guide: Grouping Filters
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby carl91 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:13 am

Does it have to be made one pair on river???

Can't it be made 1 pair on any street using no kicker?

Say we triple barrel QJ on a T22-K-5 runout for example.
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby Flag_Hippo » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pm

When using a filter for 'One Pair On River Using No Hole Cards Kicker Any Kicker' that doesn't mean the pair itself occurred on the river only so it would still pick up 'QJ on a T22-K-5 runout'.
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby carl91 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:09 pm

So the "made 1 pair on any street using no kicker" and "made 1 pair on the river using no kicker" filters will essentially return the same results correct?
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby Flag_Hippo » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:26 am

No because a 1 pair hand on the flop or turn will not always be a 1 pair hand by the river.
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby carl91 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:13 am

Ah of course.

So if I also wanted to apply the same for 2p, trips, straights etc. it would look like this?

https://imgur.com/a/sedWZMB
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Re: High Cards on River

Postby Flag_Hippo » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:33 pm

Yes that looks good.
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