Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

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Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby pt4pt4pt4 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 pm

And let us players decide how we want to define it and use it through PT4 filters.

Obvious a re-import will be required but this is a very important stat to SNG / TRNY players that it is well worth the extra task; much more so then the latest re-import of effective stacks sizes.

Filters should allow us to include / exclude split pots and to evaluate equity by streets.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:03 am

Equity is only stored in the database at the point of an all-in, so this sort of thing would actually be a pretty big change.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby COKE_MAN » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:16 pm

This has been posted before about the effort to do it and the potential performance hit, but the more I think about it the less I understand. After each hand, the mucked cards display in the HUD will calculate the equity by street and display that almost instantly and when viewing the HH in PT4, those same street by street equities are there. It was explained before that those are calculated on the fly and would be hard to import, etc. However, I've looked at the database design and I just fail to see why those values can't be written to the database when you generate them.

Just my $.02
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby PJs Ronin » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:43 pm

Add my voice to the growing list. I see no benefit (or logic for that matter) in the way PT4 currently handles Equity for tourney players.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby kraada » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:52 am

One thing I can say is that the speed hit to import from this kind of change would be very large. As it is the equity we calculate takes a nontrivial portion of the time used per hand. So there are technical considerations too.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby pt4pt4pt4 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:32 pm

But it's in your HUD Replayer seconds after which is baffling.

IDK the software / technical requirements but it's there, you just can't use it :lol:
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby kraada » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:13 pm

In terms of importing, seconds are incredibly long. Think about it like this: if you're Getting Hands From Disk and getting 10h/sec that means each hand takes .1 seconds - adding half a second per hand would make those 10 hands which took one second instead take 6 seconds and you'd get 1.66h/sec instead. That's a huge decrease.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby pt4pt4pt4 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:33 pm

I will let the others question the import process since I have no clue about Postgres.

I will say that Equity is the single most important stat to SNG & Tourney players.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby PJs Ronin » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:03 pm

pt4pt4pt4 wrote:... I will say that Equity is the single most important stat to SNG & Tourney players.

It does my old heart good to see such a post. Well said Sir.
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Re: Create a Simple Stat called "EQUITY"

Postby pt4pt4pt4 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:32 pm

PJs Ronin wrote:
pt4pt4pt4 wrote:... I will say that Equity is the single most important stat to SNG & Tourney players.

It does my old heart good to see such a post. Well said Sir.


You mentioned that you also like to use ALL in Equity to gauge your reads at tables for the day.

I added 3.44 % to a duplicate / custom stat of ALL in Equity PF and it makes much more sense when you are looking at the graph lines.

I also have a Hands Report that duplicates the results of the graph for each hand for marking hands or additional detail.

I have about 600+ K hands in my DB and compared the ALL IN / WENT In vs SD winning % to get that value of 3.44 %.

Is this value of 3.44 % close to your DB of ALL IN Equity offset with the blank values in the report?
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