CB in 3B pot as PFA w/ overs, HU, note won't trigger...

[dutch81]

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Hey guys, I'm not sure why this won't work, when testing, I can't get this to trigger. What would you suggest I change?

[WhiteRider]

I suspect it's related to the overcards filter - remember that the player has a pair (not high card) when there is a pair on the board.

[dutch81]

Right, I keep forgetting that... is there any work-around for this? I took a look at the board filters and the hand values as well but I'm not sure that adding either of these and "not"ing it will help. How can I get this note to trigger w/o adding additional filters that will limit this note to non-paired boards? I'd like this to trigger regardless of the board having a pair or not.

I've tried adding the "pair on flop, any pair filter" then adding it again to "not" it then using "or" between them to trigger both types of boards to no avail. Not sure what else I can try.

[WhiteRider]

If there is a pair on board then you have at least a paired hand - if you want to include that type of hand in your filter then you'll have to add an OR'ed filter for having a pair on the flop using no hole cards.

[dutch81]

So if I want to note situations where AK/AQ types were bet on a non-paired board or a paired board where the player did not make a pair w/ either of the hole cards... what filters would I have to add to the existing note?

I've added "pair on flop any pair" and "OR"ed it w/ a "NOT"ed "pair on flop any pair" and also added "made one pair on flop using one hole card any pair" and "NOT"ed it in the player filter as of now but I am not sure if that's what I need to do to get the desired effect.

[kraada]

You want to change "Overcards - Flop Two Overcards" to:

(Overcards - Flop Two Overcards OR Made One Hand on Flop Using No Hole Cards - Top Kicker)

though you could play with kicker depending on exactly what you're looking for (but AK/AQ hands are always going to have top kicker if they're both overs).

[dutch81]

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How does this look? Opponent filters are untouched. So this will cover AK/AQ as overs but to trigger AJ/AT types, do I just change top kicker to a second/third kicker filter?

[dutch81]

Whoops, the last filter that is cut off on the SS is what you suggested I add in your last post...
"overcards - flop two overcards" OR "made one pair on flop using no hole cards kicker top kicker".

[kraada]

Your fourth filter down is redundant - a player will always have either a pair or not a pair. AK and AJ will both trigger on for top kicker on a 665 board though - they both have the same top kicker (A).

[dutch81]

Your fourth filter down is redundant - a player will always have either a pair or not a pair. AK and AJ will both trigger on for top kicker on a 665 board though - they both have the same top kicker (A).

Do you mean AK and AQ will both trigger? If so, I'd have to change the filter to second kicker?

If you meant AK and AJ, I'm assuming for AT to trigger, I won't have to make any changes.